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Posted:
Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:25 amby Jeff
"Basically the UN child poverty study (that you cited) used a relative scale to determine poverty."
Actually, the study used the US's own official definition of poverty.
Posted:
Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:28 amby Jeff
And what motivation would UNICEF have for slanting these statistics? Is it just because they're "evil liberals of the UN?"
And why would the study praise the US for it's declining child poverty if it had a "socialist bias?"
Posted:
Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:49 pmby ofLI
europe has been slathered in decades of stagnation and have terrible economy...they have almost no manufacturing outside of Germany...and are primarily service sector economies...(periphal markets)...never mind the fact here wouldn't be a europe if it wasn't for the USA...see Hitler and Stalin folks did we forget...we single-handedly protected them from dictatorship for the better part of 50 years spending untold millions so they can sit on the bloody park benches...they better be giving something
Posted:
Sun Sep 25, 2005 9:43 pmby hansmast
Jeff wrote:And what motivation would UNICEF have for slanting these statistics? Is it just because they're "evil liberals of the UN?"
Yup! I taught you well!
Laying any speculation about motivations aside, it all boils down very simply:
The methods used in that study were bogus. They used a relative defintion of "poverty". The "poverty line" was set much higher for the U.S. The playing field was not level.
Posted:
Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:31 amby Elihu
going back to the original topic of this thread...hi Jeff! nice to see you're keeping things interesting around here.
Posted:
Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:41 amby hansmast
Yeah, Elihu, he just showed up and Voila! Instant controversy!
Ok, so I had a bit to do with that...
Posted:
Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:01 pmby ofLI
We would be better off without Yale...and please tell me Elihu that they are now offering public speaking classes at Yale...as the alumni rep. seems to be at stake...
(all in good fun=) (and some envy thrown in)
Posted:
Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:31 pmby Elihu
joshuabgood wrote:We would be better off without Yale...and please tell me Elihu that they are now offering public speaking classes at Yale...as the alumni rep. seems to be at stake...
ouch. i go to lick my wounds in the corner.
about public speaking...i assume you're referring to mr. bush's amazing rhetorical abilities? i would agree that he would provide a fine reason to offer such, but i don't think they've taken any steps in that direction just yet:)
[Edited to correct formatting. Please read this and this. -Hans]
Posted:
Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:09 pmby Jeff
I have decided
Prose is ridiculous. Ha!
I think in Haiku.
Posted:
Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:10 pmby hansmast
Jeff wrote:I have decided
Prose is ridiculous. Ha!
I think in Haiku.
I seriously doubt that. I have every confidence that you think in prose and then spend time thinking to convert to Haiku.
Posted:
Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:24 pmby Jeff
Ha! Hans Mast has nothing to do,
But question my skill at haiku
But I will now move,
To speedily prove,
I can write limerick too.
Posted:
Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:29 pmby hansmast
Jeff wrote:Ha! Hans Mast has nothing to do,
But question my skill at haiku
But I will now move,
To speedily prove,
I can write limerick too.
You have just proved my point.
Posted:
Mon Oct 03, 2005 1:21 amby jnisly
joshuabgood wrote:europe has been slathered in decades of stagnation and have terrible economy...they have almost no manufacturing outside of Germany...and are primarily service sector economies...(periphal markets)...never mind the fact here wouldn't be a europe if it wasn't for the USA...see Hitler and Stalin folks did we forget...we single-handedly protected them from dictatorship for the better part of 50 years spending untold millions so they can sit on the bloody park benches...they better be giving something
Umm, even the U.S. is primarily service sector economy. I think there would still be a Europe, it might look different, but the U.S. wouldn't exist at all if not for European immigrants, so whatever.
Posted:
Mon Oct 03, 2005 2:18 pmby ivorykeys
jlapp wrote:Btw, Im pretty socialistic myself. I think capitalism is evil...its roots are in enlightenment humanism and darwinism.
If you think socialism is so great, maybe you should spend some time in Vietnam.
Posted:
Mon Oct 03, 2005 4:00 pmby jnisly
at the risk of being obnoxious, socialism and communism have very little in common. Socialism depends on free, informed societies to function and aims only to make life better and more equitable for all citizens, while communism is a totalitarian means of trying to achieve utopia. Vietnam is communist. Please at least try not to be ignorant.